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The person who started the Western Civilization

… was a woman.

http://www.thelizlibrary.org/undelete/library/library001.html

She changed England from feudal backwater into one of the greatest
empires of all times.

So if you still think that women are stupid or evil, it is your own
reflection that you are seeing in their eyes.

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24 Responses to “The person who started the Western Civilization”

  1. admin says:

    On Sep 25, 10:37 pm, bettermillen…@gmail.com wrote:

    > … was a woman.

    > http://www.thelizlibrary.org/undelete/library/library001.html

    > She changed England from feudal backwater into one of the greatest
    > empires of all times.

    > So if you still think that women are stupid or evil, it is your own
    > reflection that you are seeing in their eyes.

    …………
    Nut. Kept alive by jesus nonsense, trumping reason.

  2. admin says:

    bettermillen…@gmail.com wrote:
    > … was a woman.

    > http://www.thelizlibrary.org/undelete/library/library00111111.html

    > She changed England from feudal backwater into one of the greatest
    > empires of all times.

    > So if you still think that women are stupid or evil, it is your own
    > reflection that you are seeing in their eyes.

    What brought this gibberish on?

  3. admin says:

    <bettermillen…@gmail.com> wrote in message

    news:31707279-bb45-437e-a96c-69de02f76293@a29g2000pra.googlegroups.com…

    > … was a woman.

    > http://www.thelizlibrary.org/undelete/library/library001.html

    > She changed England from feudal backwater into one of the greatest
    > empires of all times.

    That’s a little like arguing that the pyramids were built by some pharoah
    instead of by the slaves who actually labored on them.

  4. admin says:

    "Grizzlie Antagonist" <lloydsofhanf…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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    > <bettermillen…@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:31707279-bb45-437e-a96c-69de02f76293@a29g2000pra.googlegroups.com…
    >> … was a woman.

    >> http://www.thelizlibrary.org/undelete/library/library001.html

    >> She changed England from feudal backwater into one of the greatest
    >> empires of all times.

    > That’s a little like arguing that the pyramids were built by some pharoah
    > instead of by the slaves who actually labored on them.

    History speaks, there were no slaves, it was a labour of love for a God when
    Nile was dry. An answer for seasonal unemployment?

  5. admin says:

    <Sean_MacCl…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

    news:dc8197ff-7d2b-4acf-830a-b2e6922e1b32@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com…
    On Sep 25, 10:37 pm, bettermillen…@gmail.com wrote:

    > … was a woman.

    > http://www.thelizlibrary.org/undelete/library/library001.html

    > She changed England from feudal backwater into one of the greatest
    > empires of all times.

    > So if you still think that women are stupid or evil, it is your own
    > reflection that you are seeing in their eyes.

    …………
    Nut. Kept alive by jesus nonsense, trumping reason.

    Proven that more women than men today. Get used to it!

  6. admin says:

    "mmm&m" <908…@bigpond.com> wrote in message

    news:fy%Ck.819$sc2.382@news-server.bigpond.net.au…

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    > "Grizzlie Antagonist" <lloydsofhanf…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:Mp%Ck.1446$as4.1033@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com…
    >> <bettermillen…@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:31707279-bb45-437e-a96c-69de02f76293@a29g2000pra.googlegroups.com…
    >>> … was a woman.

    >>> http://www.thelizlibrary.org/undelete/library/library001.html

    >>> She changed England from feudal backwater into one of the greatest
    >>> empires of all times.

    >> That’s a little like arguing that the pyramids were built by some pharoah
    >> instead of by the slaves who actually labored on them.
    > History speaks, there were no slaves, it was a labour of love for a God
    > when Nile was dry. An answer for seasonal unemployment?

    Sounds more like an ancient Egyptian version of WPA.

    Anyway, my point is still unchanged.  Civilization was built by the men who
    labored on it — be they free or slave — and not by some hereditary
    monarch.

  7. admin says:

    On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:37:22 -0700 (PDT), bettermillen…@gmail.com
    wrote:

    >… was a woman.

    >http://www.thelizlibrary.org/undelete/library/library001.html

    >She changed England from feudal backwater into one of the greatest
    >empires of all times.

    >So if you still think that women are stupid or evil, it is your own
    >reflection that you are seeing in their eyes.

    What is your point in this?

    Are you trying to "empower" women?
    Are you trying to build women’s esteem?

    Or are you stating the obvious in a slightly inaccurate manner? She
    didn’t do it single handed I assure you.

    A more accurate statement might have been "She LED England….."

  8. admin says:

    On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:57:39 -0700, "Grizzlie Antagonist"

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    <lloydsofhanf…@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >"mmm&m" <908…@bigpond.com> wrote in message
    >news:fy%Ck.819$sc2.382@news-server.bigpond.net.au…

    >> "Grizzlie Antagonist" <lloydsofhanf…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    >> news:Mp%Ck.1446$as4.1033@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com…
    >>> <bettermillen…@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:31707279-bb45-437e-a96c-69de02f76293@a29g2000pra.googlegroups.com…
    >>>> … was a woman.

    >>>> http://www.thelizlibrary.org/undelete/library/library001.html

    >>>> She changed England from feudal backwater into one of the greatest
    >>>> empires of all times.

    >>> That’s a little like arguing that the pyramids were built by some pharoah
    >>> instead of by the slaves who actually labored on them.
    >> History speaks, there were no slaves, it was a labour of love for a God
    >> when Nile was dry. An answer for seasonal unemployment?

    >Sounds more like an ancient Egyptian version of WPA.

    >Anyway, my point is still unchanged.  Civilization was built by the men who
    >labored on it — be they free or slave — and not by some hereditary
    >monarch.

    A major part of their pay was in BEER.

    It was a spring break effort!

  9. admin says:

    On Sep 26, 12:37 pm, bettermillen…@gmail.com wrote:

    > … was a woman.

    > http://www.thelizlibrary.org/undelete/library/library001.html

    > She changed England from feudal backwater into one of the greatest
    > empires of all times.

    > So if you still think that women are stupid or evil

    Hitlery Condy and Palin would be good examples.

    Western civilization was started by Nimrod.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Babel

  10. admin says:

    On 26 Sep, 04:08, Colonel Sanders <themail…@unwired.com.au> wrote:

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    > On Sep 26, 12:37 pm, bettermillen…@gmail.com wrote:

    > > … was a woman.

    > >http://www.thelizlibrary.org/undelete/library/library001.html

    > > She changed England from feudal backwater into one of the greatest
    > > empires of all times.

    > > So if you still think that women are stupid or evil

    > Hitlery Condy and Palin would be good examples.

    > Western civilization was started by Nimrod.

    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Babel

    and it’ll be ended by that nimrod’s successor, the EU, whose
    "parliament" at Strassbourg is an intentional knockoff of the
    unfinished tower (the unfinished structural element being a recurring
    theme of masons)

  11. admin says:

    On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:57:39 -0700, Grizzlie Antagonist wrote:
    > "mmm&m" <908…@bigpond.com> wrote in message
    > news:fy%Ck.819$sc2.382@news-server.bigpond.net.au…

    >> "Grizzlie Antagonist" <lloydsofhanf…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    >> news:Mp%Ck.1446$as4.1033@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com…
    >>> <bettermillen…@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:31707279-bb45-437e-

    a96c-69de02f76…@a29g2000pra.googlegroups.com

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    >>>> … was a woman.

    >>>> http://www.thelizlibrary.org/undelete/library/library001.html

    >>>> She changed England from feudal backwater into one of the greatest
    >>>> empires of all times.

    >>> That’s a little like arguing that the pyramids were built by some
    >>> pharoah instead of by the slaves who actually labored on them.
    >> History speaks, there were no slaves, it was a labour of love for a God
    >> when Nile was dry. An answer for seasonal unemployment?

    > Sounds more like an ancient Egyptian version of WPA.

    > Anyway, my point is still unchanged.  Civilization was built by the men
    > who labored on it — be they free or slave — and not by some hereditary
    > monarch.

    Hereditary monarchs of the time wielded immense power, and thus played a
    major role.

    And anyway, why can’t hereditary monarchs "labor on
    civilization" (whatever that means)?

  12. admin says:

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    On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 04:08:19 -0700, Colonel Sanders wrote:
    > On Sep 26, 12:37 pm, bettermillen…@gmail.com wrote:
    >> … was a woman.

    >> http://www.thelizlibrary.org/undelete/library/library001.html

    >> She changed England from feudal backwater into one of the greatest
    >> empires of all times.

    >> So if you still think that women are stupid or evil

    > Hitlery Condy and Palin would be good examples.

    > Western civilization was started by Nimrod.

    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Babel

    How can one "start" Western civilization in the Middle East?

  13. admin says:

    On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:57:39 -0700, "Grizzlie Antagonist"

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    <lloydsofhanf…@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >"mmm&m" <908…@bigpond.com> wrote in message
    >news:fy%Ck.819$sc2.382@news-server.bigpond.net.au…

    >> "Grizzlie Antagonist" <lloydsofhanf…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    >> news:Mp%Ck.1446$as4.1033@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com…
    >>> <bettermillen…@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:31707279-bb45-437e-a96c-69de02f76293@a29g2000pra.googlegroups.com…
    >>>> … was a woman.

    >>>> http://www.thelizlibrary.org/undelete/library/library001.html

    >>>> She changed England from feudal backwater into one of the greatest
    >>>> empires of all times.

    >>> That’s a little like arguing that the pyramids were built by some pharoah
    >>> instead of by the slaves who actually labored on them.
    >> History speaks, there were no slaves, it was a labour of love for a God
    >> when Nile was dry. An answer for seasonal unemployment?

    >Sounds more like an ancient Egyptian version of WPA.

    >Anyway, my point is still unchanged.  Civilization was built by the men who
    >labored on it — be they free or slave — and not by some hereditary
    >monarch.

    Only men?? No women??

    Welshdog

    News and views… for people like youse!!

    Australian Opinion
    (http://australianopinion.com)

    Not as strange as it looks!

  14. admin says:

    On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 08:38:42 -0700 (PDT), retardsman

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    <remarks…@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >On 26 Sep, 04:08, Colonel Sanders <themail…@unwired.com.au> wrote:
    >> On Sep 26, 12:37 pm, bettermillen…@gmail.com wrote:

    >> > … was a woman.

    >> >http://www.thelizlibrary.org/undelete/library/library001.html

    >> > She changed England from feudal backwater into one of the greatest
    >> > empires of all times.

    >> > So if you still think that women are stupid or evil

    >> Hitlery Condy and Palin would be good examples.

    >> Western civilization was started by Nimrod.

    >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Babel

    >and it’ll be ended by that nimrod’s successor, the EU, whose
    >"parliament" at Strassbourg is an intentional knockoff of the
    >unfinished tower (the unfinished structural element being a recurring
    >theme of masons)

    Oi… don’t start on the masons!!

    Welshdog

    News and views… for people like youse!!

    Australian Opinion
    (http://australianopinion.com)

    Not as strange as it looks!

  15. admin says:

    "Horry" <horacewach…@gmail.com> wrote in message

    news:gbj055$emq$2@news.datemas.de…

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    > On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:57:39 -0700, Grizzlie Antagonist wrote:

    >> "mmm&m" <908…@bigpond.com> wrote in message
    >> news:fy%Ck.819$sc2.382@news-server.bigpond.net.au…

    >>> "Grizzlie Antagonist" <lloydsofhanf…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:Mp%Ck.1446$as4.1033@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com…
    >>>> <bettermillen…@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:31707279-bb45-437e-
    > a96c-69de02f76…@a29g2000pra.googlegroups.com
    >>>>> … was a woman.

    >>>>> http://www.thelizlibrary.org/undelete/library/library001.html

    >>>>> She changed England from feudal backwater into one of the greatest
    >>>>> empires of all times.

    >>>> That’s a little like arguing that the pyramids were built by some
    >>>> pharoah instead of by the slaves who actually labored on them.
    >>> History speaks, there were no slaves, it was a labour of love for a God
    >>> when Nile was dry. An answer for seasonal unemployment?

    >> Sounds more like an ancient Egyptian version of WPA.

    >> Anyway, my point is still unchanged.  Civilization was built by the men
    >> who labored on it — be they free or slave — and not by some hereditary
    >> monarch.

    > Hereditary monarchs of the time wielded immense power, and thus played a
    > major role.

    "Go build a pyramid.  I command you."  Big deal.

    > And anyway, why can’t hereditary monarchs "labor on
    > civilization" (whatever that means)?

    You can play dumb if you want by pretending that you don’t know what it
    means.

    Someone designed and planned these structures that we are talking about —  
    almost surely not the hereditary monarchs themselves — and a number of
    others with strong arms and backs — certainly not the hereditary monarchs
    themselves — actually performed the labor necessary to turn those plans and
    designs into genuine three-dimensional structures.

  16. admin says:

    On Sep 27, 2:27 am, Horry <horacewach…@gmail.com> wrote:

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    > On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 04:08:19 -0700, Colonel Sanders wrote:
    > > On Sep 26, 12:37 pm, bettermillen…@gmail.com wrote:
    > >> … was a woman.

    > >>http://www.thelizlibrary.org/undelete/library/library001.html

    > >> She changed England from feudal backwater into one of the greatest
    > >> empires of all times.

    > >> So if you still think that women are stupid or evil

    > > Hitlery Condy and Palin would be good examples.

    > > Western civilization was started by Nimrod.

    > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Babel

    > How can one "start" Western civilization in the Middle East?

    OK

    I give up.

    By "western" we mean what exactly?

    PS

    Don’t forget cowboys are a Mongolian trade mark.

  17. admin says:

    On Sep 25, 8:37 pm, bettermillen…@gmail.com wrote:

    > … was a woman.

    > http://www.thelizlibrary.org/undelete/library/library001.html

    > She changed England from feudal backwater into one of the greatest
    > empires of all times.

    > So if you still think that women are stupid or evil, it is your own
    > reflection that you are seeing in their eyes.

    Bullshit.

    First, western civilisation is a lot older than England. Second,
    even if Elizabeth did save England (which is a ridiculous claim),
    she’s only one woman, and that can not be generalised.

    You, and all readers of your post, should know damn well that
    almost all the things that actually did build our civilisation were
    done by men.

    Andrew Usher

  18. admin says:

    "Andrew Usher" <k_over_hb…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

    news:d1ad490f-f4e7-4f4b-99c3-c5f23abdea64@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com…

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    > On Sep 25, 8:37 pm, bettermillen…@gmail.com wrote:
    >> … was a woman.

    >> http://www.thelizlibrary.org/undelete/library/library001.html

    >> She changed England from feudal backwater into one of the greatest
    >> empires of all times.

    >> So if you still think that women are stupid or evil, it is your own
    >> reflection that you are seeing in their eyes.

    > Bullshit.

    > First, western civilisation is a lot older than England. Second,
    > even if Elizabeth did save England (which is a ridiculous claim),
    > she’s only one woman, and that can not be generalised.

    > You, and all readers of your post, should know damn well that
    > almost all the things that actually did build our civilisation were
    > done by men.

    > Andrew Usher

    I guess you gotta give it to the Chinese, the Romans, the Egyptians. Even
    South America. Countries like England, America sort of come later. And look
    who is f**king up the world today! Yep good ole USA, just like the Roman
    empire. What comes around goes around.

  19. admin says:

    On Sep 27, 1:38 am, retardsman <remarks…@yahoo.com> wrote:

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    > On 26 Sep, 04:08, Colonel Sanders <themail…@unwired.com.au> wrote:

    > > On Sep 26, 12:37 pm, bettermillen…@gmail.com wrote:

    > > > … was a woman.

    > > >http://www.thelizlibrary.org/undelete/library/library001.html

    > > > She changed England from feudal backwater into one of the greatest
    > > > empires of all times.

    > > > So if you still think that women are stupid or evil

    > > Hitlery Condy and Palin would be good examples.

    > > Western civilization was started by Nimrod.

    > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Babel

    > and it’ll be ended by that nimrod’s successor, the EU, whose
    > "parliament" at Strassbourg is an intentional knockoff of the
    > unfinished tower (the unfinished structural element being a recurring
    > theme of masons)

    They also have Cecil Rhodes dream-make-true, the UN.
    Global empires command for Global administration.

  20. admin says:

    On Sep 26, 10:00 pm, "mmm&mmm some more" <908…@bigpond.com> wrote:

    > I guess you gotta give it to the Chinese, the Romans, the Egyptians. Even
    > South America. Countries like England, America sort of come later. And look
    > who is f**king up the world today! Yep good ole USA, just like the Roman
    > empire. What comes around goes around.

    Pardon me, I can’t see how this in any way addresses my post (or even
    makes any sense).

    Andrew Usher

  21. admin says:

    On Sep 26, 3:29 pm, Jeßus <nonewhatsoe…@all.org> wrote:

    > bettermillen…@gmail.com wrote:
    > > … was a woman.

    > >http://www.thelizlibrary.org/undelete/library/library00111111.html

    > > She changed England from feudal backwater into one of the greatest
    > > empires of all times.

    > > So if you still think that women are stupid or evil, it is your own
    > > reflection that you are seeing in their eyes.

    > What brought this gibberish on?

    AI, Statistics and Data mining.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tavistock_Institute

  22. admin says:

    On Sep 27, 12:59 am, Colonel Sanders <themail…@unwired.com.au>
    wrote:

    > > >http://www.thelizlibrary.org/undelete/library/library00111111.html

    > > > She changed England from feudal backwater into one of the greatest
    > > > empires of all times.

    > > > So if you still think that women are stupid or evil, it is your own
    > > > reflection that you are seeing in their eyes.

    > > What brought this gibberish on?

    > AI, Statistics and Data mining.

    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tavistock_Institute

    What the hell are you talking about? Are you just a troll?

    Andrew Usher

  23. admin says:

    On Sep 27, 6:04 pm, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb…@yahoo.com> wrote:

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    > On Sep 27, 12:59 am, Colonel Sanders <themail…@unwired.com.au>
    > wrote:

    > > > >http://www.thelizlibrary.org/undelete/library/library00111111.html

    > > > > She changed England from feudal backwater into one of the greatest
    > > > > empires of all times.

    > > > > So if you still think that women are stupid or evil, it is your own
    > > > > reflection that you are seeing in their eyes.

    > > > What brought this gibberish on?

    > > AI, Statistics and Data mining.

    > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tavistock_Institute

    > What the hell are you talking about?

    Forums are some of the best places to study "human relations" for
    propaganda/commercial purposes. Ask any British Imperialist.

    >Are you just a troll?

    Did I start the thread?

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    > Andrew Usher

  24. admin says:

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    On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:48:58 -0700, Andrew Usher wrote:
    > On Sep 25, 8:37 pm, bettermillen…@gmail.com wrote:
    >> … was a woman.

    >> http://www.thelizlibrary.org/undelete/library/library001.html

    >> She changed England from feudal backwater into one of the greatest
    >> empires of all times.

    >> So if you still think that women are stupid or evil, it is your own
    >> reflection that you are seeing in their eyes.

    > Bullshit.

    > First, western civilisation is a lot older than England. Second, even if
    > Elizabeth did save England (which is a ridiculous claim), she’s only one
    > woman, and that can not be generalised.

    Who’s claiming that Elizabeth "saved" England?

    > You, and all readers of your post, should know damn well that almost all
    > the things that actually did build our civilisation were done by men.

    For curiosity’s sake, would you mind listing what you consider to be the
    four (4) most important "things that actually did build our civilization"?

    And what is your definition of civilization?