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OK – Is Children's Rights just a shill for the ""Child Protection"" INDUSTRY to obtain enlargement and more MONEY for Foster Care?

Mr. Clarence Cooper, Director of OKFRC sent the following to persons
in the legal department of children’ who are the N.Y. based
advocacy group participating in the current class action lawsuit here
in Ok. against DHS. This was done in hopes of fostering communications
and understanding regarding the lawsuit.

Mrs. / Ms. Halliday and / or Mr. Iseli,     A member of one Oklahoma
community has come to the Oklahoma Family Rights Coalition and
expressed concerns regarding the Class Action suit involving
Oklahoma’s Foster Children.     I have included their statement in
this message, and seek a response from the Children’s Rights
Organization.  I believe
 that the children, families, and communities, of Oklahoma, deserve
the best explanation possible; where this enquiry is concerned.Thank
you, as always, for your valued patience and assistance.

*************** Begin Statement *****************

In any class action suit all parties are bound by the judgment
or settlement of the case unless they choose to "opt out".
Once there is a judgment or settlement in a case further
actions based on any of the claims or issues are barred by
res judicata and collateral estoppel. The application of res
judicata and collateral estoppel produces finality for the
parties and promotes judicial economy.  Parties know that
when final judgment isentered and all appeals are exhausted,
the case is over and the decision will be binding on all
issues determined in the lawsuit. West’s Encyclopedia of
American Law,edition 2. Copyright 2008 The Gale Group,Inc.
All rights reserved. [Latin, A thing adjudged.] A rule that a
final judgment on the merits by acourt having jurisdiction is
conclusive between the parties to a suit as to all matters
that were litigated or that could have been litigated in that
suit.  The U.S. legal system places a high value on allowing
a party to litigate a civil lawsuit for money damages only once.
U.S. courts employ the rule of res judicata to prevent a
dissatisfied party from trying to litigate the issue a second
time.  And here is the issue that will be barred from future
litigation, (From the petition in the class action),4. Plaintiff
Children Are Denied Adequate and Effective Legal
Representation in the Juvenile Courts   But the children
in this case can’t "opt out" can they?  Will they even know
they can?   Only if they read and understand "Notice by
publication", not many newspapers in foster care huh?.
And parents of children involved even if their rights have
not been terminated have no say and will not be allowed
to join. (From the petition in the class action)44. According
to state data from 2006, approximately 10,000 foster
children were in the legal custody of DHS.  The Class is
sufficiently numerous to make individual joinder
impracticable. I guess we see another reason to claim
10,000 children when there are only around 7000 And
here is the issue that will be barred from future litigation,
4. Plaintiff Children Are Denied Adequate and Effective
Legal Representation in the Juvenile Courts  Do you
remember the settlement in the class action tobacco
suit?   If I’m not being clear enough anyone who wishes
to be sure should call an attorney and ask about suing
the tobacco companies.  For example, assume that
the plaintiff in the first lawsuit asserted that she was
injured in an auto accident.  She sues the driver of the
other auto under a theory of Negligence.  A jury returns
a verdict that finds that the defendant was not negligent.
The injured driver then files a second lawsuit alleging
additional facts thatwould help her prove that the other
driver was negligent.  A court would dismiss the
second lawsuit under res judicata because the second
lawsuit is based on the same Cause of Action
(negligence) and the same injury claim.Under the
companion rule of Collateral Estoppel, the plaintiff will
not be allowed to file a second lawsuit for money
damages using a different cause of action or claim.
Under collateral estoppel, the parties are precluded
from litigating a second lawsuit using a different
cause of action based on any issue of fact common
to both suits that had been litigated and determined
in the first suit. For example, the plaintiff who lost
her auto accident case based on a theory of
negligence cannot proceed witha second lawsuit
based on an allegation that the driver intentionally
struck her auto, thus making it an intentional tort
cause of action.  A court would assert collateral
estoppel because the plaintiff could have alleged
an intentional tort cause of action in the original
complaint. Class members often receive little or
no benefit from class actions.  Examples cited for
this include large fees for the attorneys, while
leaving class members withcoupons or other
awards of little or no value; unjustified awards are
made to certain plaintiffs at the expense of other
class members; and confusing notices are
published that prevent class members from being
able to fully understand and effectively exercise
their rights. For example, in the United States,
class lawsuits sometimes bind all classmembers
with a low settlement.  These "coupon settlements"
(which usually allow theplaintiffs to receive minimal
benefit such as a small check or a coupon for
future services or products with the defendant
company) are a way for a defendant to forestall
major liability by precluding a large number of
people from litigating their claims separately, to
recover reasonable compensation for the damages.

****************** End Statement ******************

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Nazareth Carpenter Being Held On Charges Involving Underage Mother
Bethlehem, Roman-occupied Judea – Authorities were today alerted by a
concerned citizen who noticed a family living in a barn. Upon arrival,
Child Protective Services personnel, accompanied by police, took into
protective care an infant child named Jesus, who had been wrapped in
strips of cloth and placed in a feeding trough by his 14-year old
mother, Mary of Nazareth.
During the confrontation, a man identified as Joseph, also of
Nazareth, attempted to stop the social workers. Joseph, aided by
several local shepherds and some unidentified foreigners, tried to
forestall efforts to take the child, but was restrained by the police.
Also being held for questioning are three foreigners who claim to be
wise men from an eastern country. The INS and Homeland Security
officials are seeking information about these, who may be in the
country illegally. A source with the INS states that they had no
passports, but were in possession of gold and other possibly illegal
substances. They resisted arrest, saying that they had been warned by
God to avoid officials in Jerusalem and to return quickly to their own
country. The chemical substances in their possession will be tested.
The owner of the barn is also being held for questioning. The manager
of the Bethlehem Inn faces possible revocation of his license for
violating health and safety regulations by allowing people to stay in
the stable. Civil authorities are also investigating the zoning
violations involved in maintaining livestock in a commercially-zoned
The location of the minor child will not be released, and the prospect
for a quick resolution to this case is doubtful. Asked about when
Jesus would be returned to his mother, a Child Protective Service
spokesperson said, “The father is middle-aged and the mother
definitely underage. We are checking with officials in Nazareth to
determine what their legal relationship is.
Joseph has admitted taking Mary from her home in Nazareth because of a
census requirement. However, because she was obviously pregnant when
they left, investigators are looking into other reasons for their
Joseph is being held without bond on charges of kidnapping and child
endangerment, and threatening a CPS caseworker when the worker
attempted to take the infant from the mother.

Mary was taken to the Bethlehem General Hospital where she is being
examined by doctors. Charges may also be filed against her for
endangerment. She will also undergo psychiatric evaluation because of
her claim that she is a virgin and that the child is from God.
Psychiatrists at the hospital have told a source that they believe
Mary suffers from Borderline Personality Disorder, schizophrenia and
bipolar disorder.

The director of the psychiatric wing said, “I don’t profess to have
the right to tell people what to believe, but when their beliefs
adversely affect the safety and well-being of others – in this case
her child – we must consider her a danger to others. The unidentified
drugs at the scene didn’t help her case, but I’m confidant that with
the proper therapy regimen we can get her back on her feet.”

The Director of Child Protective Services said: “Our caseworkers are
interviewing the parents, Mary and Joseph. It has been determined that
they are in need of services, and if they refuse to partake of them,
we will promptly bring suit to terminate their parental rights.” When
asked who will care for Jesus if that happens, the Director said: “We
have many suitable foster parents who already want to adopt this
beautiful child.”

Mary was deeply distressed when the child was taken away by a CPS
caseworker. Mary said: “They didn’t have any right to take him from

A spokesperson for the governor’s office said, “Who knows what was
going through their heads? But regardless, their treatment of the
child was inexcusable, and the involvement of these others
frightening. There is much we don’t know about this case, but for the
sake of the child and the public, you can be assured that we will
pursue this matter to the end.”

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PRINCESS James and Mary Seay and the state registry…

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3 fired, 2 resign after Fla. prisons shock kids

3 fired, 2 resign after Fla. prisons shock kids

By JESSICA GRESKO   AP    Friday, 05.15.09

MIAMI — Demonstrations at three Florida prisons where more than 40
children were shocked with stun guns have led to the dismissal of
three employees and the resignation of two others, the Department of
Corrections said Friday.

The incidents took place on April 23, national "Take Our Daughters and
Sons to Work Day." As part of demonstrations at two prisons, children
held hands in a circle, and one was shocked with the stun gun, passing
the shock around the circle. At another prison, children were shocked

The children, ranged in age from 5 to 17, felt the shocks either
directly or indirectly, but none of the children were seriously hurt
or taken to the hospital, the department said.

All of the children had parents who work for the department and some
parents gave permission for their children to be shocked, but that did
not excuse officers for using the stun guns, Department of Corrections
Secretary Walter McNeil said Friday.

"We believe this behavior is inexcusable," McNeil said in a phone
interview. "I apologize to the children and parents. None of these
kids should have been exposed to these devices."

McNeil said he had never been shocked by one of the devices but that
the circle demonstration is something commonly done in training
classes for correctional officers.

Officials are also investigating a demonstration of tear gas at Lake
Correctional Institution in Clermont. Children there were accidentally
exposed to the gas when the wind shifted, but none required medical
care. That investigation is not yet complete.

The stun gun demonstrations happened at one prison southwest of
Tallahassee and two others in the southern part of the state. Unlike a
Taser, which shoots a probe that delivers a shock, the devices used at
the prisons were stun guns, which work when touched to a person’s skin
and affect a smaller area of the body. The result is two temporary
marks that look like mosquito bites but may later turn into bruises
about the width of a pencil eraser.

Stun guns are not routinely carried by correctional officers unless
they are escorting inmates to court or to the hospital. The devices
have not had to be used on any of the Department of Corrections’ more
than 100,000 prisoners this year, the department said.

The Department says 55 of its prisons, just under half, participated
in the national day when children are invited to their parents’
workplaces. Many of the facilities had pancake breakfasts, speakers,
canine demonstrations and tours of the outside of prisons. Some
facilities had trainers demonstrate stun guns on themselves, not a
violation of the department’s policy.

The circle stun gun demonstrations happened at Indian River
Correctional Institution in Vero Beach and Martin Correctional
Institution in Indiantown. Seven other children were shocked directly
at Franklin Correctional Institution in Carrabelle.

The three fired employees were involved in shocking the children. They
are Lt. Russell Bourgault and Sgt. Walter Schmidt, both of whom had
approximately 14 years with the department, and Sgt. Charmaine Davis,
who was hired in 2003. They are not going to be charged with any
crime, McNeil said. Phone numbers of the officers were not immediately
available and they could not be reached for comment.

The two who resigned were from the Vero Beach prison were Lt. P.J.
Weisner, an 11-year veteran, and Maj. Seth Adams, a 19-year-veteran.
Another 16 employees, ranging from correctional officers to wardens
will be disciplined. Punishments include demotions and suspensions.
Others will get a letter in their file that will affect their
evaluations and future promotion. None of the wardens knew the devices
would be used with children, McNeil said.

The incidents were also reported to the Department of Children and
Families, but it was not clear if the department would take any action
as a result.

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NYC Administration For Children's Services Must Be Stopped…

Wednesday, May 13, 2009
An Open Letter to President Barack Obama- Children are better off with
"troubled families" than with foster care,

I submitted the following "policy question" to President Obama’s staff
through the White House website:

If "everything is on the table" shouldn’t the new administration take
a good hard look at foster care and Child Protective Services?

1- Foster Care is a failure:
● The Evidence is in: Foster Care vs. Keeping Families Together: The
Definitive Study. NCCPR’s analysis of a study comparing outcomes for
more than 15,000 children, with a link to the full study. Children
left in their own homes typically fared far better than comparably
maltreated children placed in foster care.

・ 80 Percent Failure: A Brief Analysis of the Casey Family Programs
Northwest Foster Care Alumni Study.

・ Civil Liberties Without Exception: NCCPR’s Due Process Agenda for
Children and Families

・ Epidemic of Hype: How hysteria over methamphetamine has become the
latest excuse to “take the child and run.”

・ A Foster Parent Speaks Out. A foster parent shares her observations
about the child welfare system in her state.

・ Residential Treatment: What the Research Tells Us.

・ The Trouble with CFSRs. NCCPR’s analysis of the federal government’s
Child and Family Services Reviews.

STATE AND LOCAL REPORTS: NCCPR has issued reports on child welfare in
several states as well as in New York City. They are available (in pdf
format), by CLICKING HERE TO GET TO OUR STATE REPORT INDEX PAGE well as by regular mail or e-
mail as attached files.

I am not afiliated with the NCCPR. They advocate foster care and CPS
reform. In January of 1996 I was hired as a Child Protective worker at
New York City’s Administration for Children’s Services as part of the
"first wave" of "fresh blood" that was going to reform Child Welfare
in New York. That was more than thirteen years ago. We still to this
day are regaled with tales of child welfare reform. Some things simply
cannot be fixed and have to be scrapped.

2- Child Protective Services should be regarded as the Keystone Kops
of social work.…

As a ten and a half year veteran "Child Protector" I saw first hand
too many instances of incompetence, cruelty, and irregard for human
and civil rights. For example, fathers and extended families are
rarely sought out, and too easily disqualified to be caregivers
regardless of what any rulebook or syncophant might say.

Emergency child removals (of which I have done many) are cruel,
traumatic, destructive to all involved and simply funnel helpless
children into the abyss. While studies tell us that foster care has an
eighty percent failure rate and that children fare better in "abusive"
and "neglegent" families than in foster care our country,( and through
its leadership much of the world), continues on this destructive path.

The people voted for boldness, audacity and change that could be
believed in. The President would go down in history as a Great
President alongside Abraham Lincoln were he to have this matter looked
at seriously and with a whole new and objective eye and reach the
conclusion that would be inevitable: Foster Care and child removals
are grossly overused, their use fluctuate with political and
journalistic tides, budgetary considerations and social work fads.
What these trends, fads and political tides have to do with protecting
vulnerable children would be something you should look into.

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The Jonas Brothers and their purity rings

The Jonas Brothers wear purity rings to symbolize their commitment to
remain virgins until they are married. I’m interested to know what
readers of this newsgroup think of these young men and their decision
to wear purity rings.

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Is Baha'i the UN's religion?
"A world community in which all economic barriers will have been
permanently demolished and the interdependence of capital and labour
definitely recognized; in which the clamour of religious fanaticism
and strife will have been forever stilled; in which the flame of
racial animosity will have been finally extinguished; in which a
single code of international law–the product of the considered
judgement of the world’s federated representatives–shall have as its
sanction the instant and coercive intervention of the combined forces
of the federated units; and finally a world community in which the
fury of a capricious and militant nationalism will have been
transmuted into an abiding consciousness of world citizenship–such
indeed, appears, in its broadest outline, the Order anticipated by
Bahá’u'lláh, an Order that shall come to be regarded as the fairest
fruit of a slowly maturing age."

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FluffFriday: Intact Irishman Colin Farrell is better than you! His multi-million dollar pad

Colin Farrell is better than you
Celebrity Homes, Colin Farrell…
Colin Farrell Los Feliz House 1

Colin Farrell has a nice house

Colin Farrell’s home in Los Feliz

NOTE: “. . . is better than you” is a Friday feature showcasing multi-
million dollar celebrity homes in the hopes of generating feelings of
jealousy, hatred, and animosity towards said celebrity. When you get
down to the entertainment-dollar-spending core of it, you helped buy
that home. Sucker!

[Mavrixonline, NTVLand]


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Re: Wanda Skyes at WHCD- Conservatives… PREPARE TO PUKE!

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bitches leave <bitc…> wrote:
>Kickin’ Ass and Takin’ Names wrote:
>> On May 10, 11:29 am, bitches leave <bitc…> wrote:
>>> TMS wrote:
>>>> On May 10, 4:46 am, "Syvyn11" <robhorine…> wrote:
>>>> What a failure.
>>>> – TMS
>>> be fair.

>>> politics aside, not one female comedian has ever once been funny.

>> This comment tells us more about you than about female comedians.

>> What happened — some girl scare the shit out of you in junior high
>> school and you’ve been afraid of women since?

>historically, women do have a better track record of beating up men than
>they do at creating good comedy. added because you seem to have the classic attitude.

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